tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post5311597487991866766..comments2024-03-28T05:02:45.682-07:00Comments on Between the Bolter and Me: Dragged into Turbolasers Episode 75: The evolution of Space Marines, from True-scale to PrimarisAdam Wierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11710889303035437886noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-56289232693561823112023-08-29T09:28:24.896-07:002023-08-29T09:28:24.896-07:00It is a converted fw Elysian drop trooper!It is a converted fw Elysian drop trooper!Eric Wierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276836738624222147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-11033493936802715012023-08-29T07:41:12.694-07:002023-08-29T07:41:12.694-07:00where is the "guard" on the left of your...where is the "guard" on the left of your first image from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-42234283899396947472020-09-09T20:08:09.610-07:002020-09-09T20:08:09.610-07:00This is a great idea for an episode of the podcast...This is a great idea for an episode of the podcast! We will try to make one!Eric Wierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276836738624222147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-87550566917045896352020-08-24T10:39:14.006-07:002020-08-24T10:39:14.006-07:00I know you're primarily focused on modelling a...I know you're primarily focused on modelling and painting but in a future episode could you talk about your approach to gaming and setting up a game/campaign? From prior episodes I gather you are more narrative and less rules focused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-83602104267441264612020-08-20T16:34:53.245-07:002020-08-20T16:34:53.245-07:00Yeah, you are right that GW has never really focus...Yeah, you are right that GW has never really focused on realism with their models, so it is not surprising the proportions are a little odd. You are also right that Space Marines would not be too concerned with the weight of a bolter, regardless of how large it is, and that maybe there is less dense, but resilient metal in 40k. The main reason I think they would want them to be smaller is so that they are less cumbersome. Their current size would make them really awkward to handle and use. Eric Wierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276836738624222147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-38728908891384531522020-08-20T16:02:57.434-07:002020-08-20T16:02:57.434-07:00I'm still not convinced why sm Guns should nee...I'm still not convinced why sm Guns should need shrinking though...<br />Shouldn't you be able to carry as much as you want when you're wearing Power armour? Do we even know what metals weigh in the 41st? Maybe they're far lighter! Isn't there something called "plasteel"?<br />Anyway, nice episode! Still a fascinating topic. I Do think gw has just never thought of realism as such an important topic. They always went for emotion or mood rather than accuracy. It's a little like fighting over Jack Kirby's or Frank Miller's drawing style. Boba Slimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15939626609895699787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-55339819028096110092020-08-12T18:21:29.186-07:002020-08-12T18:21:29.186-07:00The scale creep certainly is a major issue. It wou...The scale creep certainly is a major issue. It would have been great if the human models were smaller, but it was not to be... And as you said, it sure is odd that the squatting pose became such a big part of GW's model lines.Eric Wierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276836738624222147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901426566557963132.post-37044131260362727202020-08-12T18:04:47.803-07:002020-08-12T18:04:47.803-07:00Great episode as usual guys. I strongly agree with...Great episode as usual guys. I strongly agree with Brad that actually Space Marines were never the problem...the problem was the human models were too big. Everything was sort of in scale with itself and with other manufacturers (that is, an IG mini would look ok next to a WWII mini) until the IG Regiments were released in 2nd ed 40K (when IG went from Imperial Army in RT to having Cadians, Catachans, Mordians, etc) because the Perrys sculpted them bigger than the Space Marines, and bigger than any other 28mm miniatures in the entire wargaming market. (They did the same with WHFB Empire humans in 4th/5th ed and corrected it when they sculpted Dogs of War in a realistic 28mm scale.) That was never corrected but Space Marines stayed the same. <br /><br />Personally I won't buy Primaris, and I'm not interested in true-scale. The reason is, even though they are objectively "better", they are too big. They take up too much space on the table. I want actual 28mm models, and the old womble marines are better for that despite their faults. <br /><br />It has never been explained though why they have always been made so that they are all squatting. There was never any technological issue that necessitated it, it's always just been a weird design choice to have them all look like they need to go to the toilet. (Kym) + Warburton + (Classic40K) https://www.blogger.com/profile/17333928965917754588noreply@blogger.com